Before the winter, the question arises again: how to choose skis? Which parameters are important in the selection and which are not?
The first thing we notice on every ski is the surface of the ski. Natural wooden, flashy, picture or uniform race design?
The shape and purpose of the skis follows. On the slopes, on ungroomed terrain, or on a ski slope?
In this article, we will not focus on race skis that are regulated by the FIS standard.
There are many smaller and larger ski brands on the market that offer XY models to choose from, in different conditions, from different materials, for women, and for men.
How to understand it all and choose the right instrument for yourself to go down the hill or run up the hill?
We offer you a brief guide on how to do it.
You will learn:
First of all, you have to know: What kind of skier I am?
Secondly, ask yourself: What terrain do I choose the skis for?
The length of the skis is crucial
The profile of the ski will tell you
Shapes and graceful curves
Tails – small change, big impact
Effective edge or length is important
How much
What does all this mean?
Model example
Introduction of Forest Skis ski models
First of all, you have to know what kind of skier you are
What are my riding skills, how can I ski and how do I want to ski.
These questions can help you decide:
Do I want to ride on the piste or do I like to go into deeper snow or ungroomed snow?
Can I ride when conditions change?
Am I an experienced skier or do I ride only a few times a year?
Do I prefer harder or softer skis?
The weight of the skier also plays a role. Skis and the materials in them behave differently for someone who weighs 100kg+ and differently for a weight of, for example, 70kg.
The clear diagram divides the Forest skis into categories as follows.
Secondly, ask yourself: What terrain do I choose the skis for?
I like ski-touring, do I have fun in open terrain and sometimes I like to cut a few curves on the piste?
The width of the ski, which is given according to the narrowest place on the ski, is decisive for the definition of the ski category.
At the same time, we add with one breath that the following categories are indicative. The width in combination with the radius and rocker can move the ski to another category (radius and rocker are discussed below).
The width of the tip and tail also has an effect on riding characteristics. For example, slalom and big mountain skis can have the same width at the tip and tail. But they will not ride in a similar way, because the width underfoot can also differ by 4-5 cm. We discuss the properties of the tails later in this article.
Freeride
Skiing in difficult conditions, the terrain is natural snow, powder. For stability, longer and wider skis are preferred. Skis must be strong enough and durable, but they are usually softer than downhill or alpine skis. Standard binding is used.
The ideal width of the ski underfoot: 100 – 120 mm
Length of skis from the height of the skier: 0 / + 10cm
Length * skis 180-190cm
Weight ** skis: 1800 – 2300g
Ski touring / Skiapinism
The terrain for ski touring is hard snow, pistes, bumps. Often also unconsolidated snow when riding off-piste.
The weight of the skis and bindings should also be taken into account, which could be as light as possible.
The ideal width of the ski underfoot: 70 – 90mm
Length of skis from the height of the skier: -10 / 0cm
Length * skis 160-170cm
Weight ** skis: up to 1500g, under 1000g for race skis
Free touring
Compared to ski touring, free touring is more in open terrain. It is characterized by moguls, unconsolidated snow, and powder. Skis are usually light in weight and easier to handle.
The ideal width of the ski underfoot: 90 – 110 mm
Length of skis from the height of the skier: -5 / + 5cm
Ski length 170-180cm
Weight ** skis: 1400 – 1900g
All-mountain
All-mountain (or all-round) is the widest category of skiing. All categories of terrain, hard snow, moguls, and ungroomed snow are represented in this category. The skis are medium stiff and stable.
The ideal width of the ski underfoot: 86 – 105mm
Length of skis from the height of the skier: -5 / + 5cm
Ski length 170-180cm
Weight ** skis: 1600 – 2100g
Alpine skiing / Carving
Traditionally, the piste terrain features hard snow to ice and mild bumps/moguls. The skis are mostly stiffer and heavier.
The ideal width of the ski underfoot: 65 – 85mm
Length of skis to the height of the skier: -5 / -10cm
Length * skis 160-170cm
Weight ** skis: over 2000g
You can also encounter other categories, for example
64-72 mm underfoot – Race
73-86 mm underfoot – All-round
100-110 mm underfoot – MID FAT
120 + mm underfoot – POWDER skis
* length is a reference.
** weight is given for one ski, without binding.
The length of the skis is crucial
Do I have 150cm or 180cm?In general, the length of the skis depends on:
Skier’s height
The beginner has skis from -5 to -15 cm of the body height.
Advanced: 0 to -5 of the body height.
Expert: probably every expert can choose skis according to what he wants to ride. Viktor measures 177 cm and rides skis from 165 cm to 198 cm.
Skier’s abilities
For less capable skiers, the skis may be shorter and vice versa.
Terrain
We can simply say that shorter skis are meant for the slopes and short curves.
In freeride and open terrain, it is important to have stability and a longer effective edge. The buoyancy area of the skis increases with width and length.
When ski-touring and going up the hill, you need to be able to turn with the ski and think about the fact that we want to enjoy the ride on the way down and we should have to have enough energy for that.
The following table will make the selection of the length clearer.
The profile of the ski will tell you
The profile of the ski means how it is bent and how it lays on the snow.
Everything has a reason and here we will try to explain to you how it affects riding.
The two basic profiles are Camber and Rocker.
Camber is a basic and traditional bend. When you put the skis together, a gap is created under the binding.
Rocker is the opposite of Camber.
On most skis, these two profiles are combined.
The individual profiles, also for Forest Skis skis, are described in the graphic image. Camber and Rocker are described in more detail below.
The most common damage to the ski is a change in this profile, which occurs when the ski is trampled down or when the ski reaches the end of its life cycle. Therefore, it is necessary to check both skis in pair if they are still the same.
Camber
Convex curvature of the ski. Or simply put, when we place the ski on the ground, how far the binding is from the surface.
This height determines the aggressiveness and adhesion of the ski to the terrain. It transmits forces to the tip and tail of the ski.
With this feature, it reduces vibrations while riding.
It is suitable for hard and modified surfaces and holds the desired direction more easily. Therefore, we encounter this shape mainly on downhill/apline skis.
Rocker
The name is derived from either reverse camber or rocking.
This shape is developed for off-piste riding thanks to the fact that in deep snow it gives great and easy control over the ski. At the same time, it helps to ride on switch, better absorbs the effects of landing the jumps, or helps with rebounds.
Shapes and graceful curves
The shape of the skis indicates the riding characteristics of the skis. Their playfulness and dexterity. One of the main shape properties is the radius of the ski. Then come the length of the effective edges, the narrowing of the skis at the front and back, etc.
The radius is an imaginary circle that describes the ski if we put it on the edge. The rocker and the stiffness of the ski also have an effect on the arc. Again, we have several types:
Radius division
Short radius
A turn with a radius of 11 – 14 m. Skis with these radii are mostly considered to be slalom skis and tend to stick to themselves in sharp curves and riding straight is difficult on them.
Middle radius
A turn with a radius of 15 – 20 m. The most commonly used ski radiuses. The skis are calm, but at the same time, they do not need to be technically extra pressed into turns.
Large radius
A turn with a radius of 21 – 30 m. These are skis with a tendency to ride quickly and aggressively, or skis suitable for sliding turns, when you no longer ride on the edges.
A turn with a radius of 30 m +
Riding in a cut curve on these skis is practically intended only for really experienced skiers. These skis are designed primarily for sliding turns. According to my calculations and measurements, old school or classic skis had radii over 50m.
Several radii are sometimes also used to combine when designing skis. Double or triple radii are made. Subsequently, depending on the inclination of the skis or on the inclination of the skier forwards or backward, the turn that the ski describes changes.
Tails – small change, big impact
The shape of the tails has a major impact on riding characteristics. Forest Skis offers custom tail adjustment, according to the required riding characteristics of the ski. Thanks to this, we can adjust your skis exactly to what you need.
Swallowtail is the most special and also the shortest Freeride tail. With this tail you can easily change the length of your turns. Thanks to this design tail is really light so you can turn the ski on the spot. The pressure of the snow congested under the ski comes out through it. This increase the speed of the ski. The Swallow tail is the best choice for ex-racers.
Twin-Tip is the standard designed for playful ride. With mounting point more forward, the ski is balanced and longer tail is stable. Riders appreciate Twin-Tip for BC riding, rotations and switch riding. If you are a new school rider looking for something special this is a choice for you.
SemiTwin is playful option of our Frost skis. The mounting point is more forward so the ski is balanced and longer tail makes it stable. When you are looking for the joyful ride, this is a ski option for you.
Fin tail provides speed and stability. It is stable and supportive in landings. Cut-outs on the sides of the tail allow the snow to glide down from the tail without making the snow spray. The ride is faster and ski is balanced. This would be your choice if you like Freeride with some tricks as well.
Alpin is the tail designed for Freeride touring. Ski with this type of tail is turning faster and thanks to the shorter tail, you have more classic feeling on the ski. Cut-out is good for hooking the skins and the tail will nicely support you in landings.
Telemark tails are by the look radical but highly functional. They work on a basis of two slightly different lengths of the skis. You have a longer ski for the outside edge and a shorter ski for the inside edge in a turn. The pressure is distributed evenly along the ski. Skis are more manageable and stable. We highly recommend this type of tail to all telemark skiers.
Full Rocker or SemiSwallow tail provides speed and stability. It is stable and supportive in landings. Cut-outs on the sides of the tail allow the snow to glide down from the tail without making the snow spray. The ride is faster and ski is balanced. This would be your choice if you like Freeride with some tricks as well.
Race or race S is the shortest tail flat for aggressive rides and the fastest turns. The tip of the ski is a bit wider and sits lower on the snow. When you like race carving in all snow conditions this tail will be suited for you. It is the lightest and the shortest ski in our range. Softer women version with white sidewalls is available.
Different tails can be used through several categories, see diagram.
Effective edge or length is important
We mentioned the effective edge in the article. But what does that mean?
It is the part of the edge that touches the surface in harsh snow conditions.
It varies from the depth of the snow. Thanks to the rocker with a combination of radius, long skis can have shorter effective edges. As a result, they are easy to handle on hard surfaces but fast and stable in deep snow.
How much
Price is an important and decisive factor for many of us. It pays to invest in skis because of the feeling of skiing and also in terms of health.
Services can be included in the price. Bindings need to be mounted on new skis, costs can be in the tens of €. The advantage is other services such as consulting, custom skis, or service.
When choosing new skis, it pays to look at advantageous combinations, such as skis + bindings, possibly also skins. We can offer these combinations in Forest Skis.
Expensive = good quality may not apply
Is the quality of the skis reflected in the price? Yes and no, nowadays the price of skis at commercial brands reflects various factors.
The term “expensive skis” is subjective. For some, skis can be expensive at € 400, for some even at € 1,500.
You can compare the real price of skis based on the materials and development that the brand has completed. Marketing can also significantly increase it.
We as Forest Skis mainly sell directly. When selling through the traditional network of dealers and distributors, our prices would have to be significantly higher.
At the same time, it is necessary to keep in mind the ratio of the price of skis and skiing. How much money do we leave per year for trips, ski passes, and accommodation? The price of quality skis is negligible in this comparison.
Ideally, we buy skis for several years. We don’t often have to get used to new ones and at the same time, it’s ecological.
What does all this mean?
Everyone who wants to enjoy skiing to the fullest devotes some time to choosing skis.
In the article, we have prepared a “guide”, which parameters are important and which have what benefits for riding.
According to the answers to the questions “what kind of skier I am” and “how I want to ski” you will find out in which area you are looking for skis. Subsequently, it is about personal references and also testing.
Therefore, it is good to try the skis on available ski tests or try to rent them in selected rental shops, where the portfolio is also expanding.
Forest Skis provides a diverse portfolio for skiers who like speed but also want to experience something new and take their skiing to a new level. Therefore, we also prepared the division of our skis through categories, see the diagram.
At the same time, we prepare ski tests all over Slovakia (if situation gets better also the Alps) for this winter, where you can try our skis on your own foot;).
Model example
“Hello, I’m Petra. I measure 170cm, I am 30 years old. As a kid, I used to ski competitively, so I know the technique, I make a lot of curves and I like to ski at speed. I prefer skiing on the piste, but whenever possible, I ride-off it. I don’t do ski-touring yet. I’m looking for a medium to the short radius. ”
Analysis:
Ski length: approx. 170cm
Ski category: all-mountain
Radius: medium to short radius
Profile: Camber, tip Rocker
The result:
FROST ski model, 169cm, Alpin tail
90mm underfoot
15m radius
Veneer: cherry, because I’m a girl 🙂
Introduction of Forest Skis models
We also present individual skis in short videos on our YouTube channels. You will find a ski intro here (with EN, FR, DE, ES and IT subtitles – they can be set in a video and the default depends on your youtube account):
Frost • Druid • Perun • Lotor • Vesna • Skadi
Text: Petra Jurečková, Viktor Devečka, Photo: Hamish Birt, Martin Fševed Žilka, Ondra Šimko
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A great season begins with the right choice of skis
Before the winter, the question arises again: how to choose skis? Which parameters are important in the selection and which are not?
The first thing we notice on every ski is the surface of the ski. Natural wooden, flashy, picture or uniform race design?
The shape and purpose of the skis follows. On the slopes, on ungroomed terrain, or on a ski slope?
In this article, we will not focus on race skis that are regulated by the FIS standard.
There are many smaller and larger ski brands on the market that offer XY models to choose from, in different conditions, from different materials, for women, and for men.
How to understand it all and choose the right instrument for yourself to go down the hill or run up the hill?
We offer you a brief guide on how to do it.
You will learn:
First of all, you have to know what kind of skier you are
What are my riding skills, how can I ski and how do I want to ski.
These questions can help you decide:
The weight of the skier also plays a role. Skis and the materials in them behave differently for someone who weighs 100kg+ and differently for a weight of, for example, 70kg.
The clear diagram divides the Forest skis into categories as follows.
Secondly, ask yourself: What terrain do I choose the skis for?
I like ski-touring, do I have fun in open terrain and sometimes I like to cut a few curves on the piste?
The width of the ski, which is given according to the narrowest place on the ski, is decisive for the definition of the ski category.
At the same time, we add with one breath that the following categories are indicative. The width in combination with the radius and rocker can move the ski to another category (radius and rocker are discussed below).
The width of the tip and tail also has an effect on riding characteristics. For example, slalom and big mountain skis can have the same width at the tip and tail. But they will not ride in a similar way, because the width underfoot can also differ by 4-5 cm. We discuss the properties of the tails later in this article.
Freeride
Skiing in difficult conditions, the terrain is natural snow, powder. For stability, longer and wider skis are preferred. Skis must be strong enough and durable, but they are usually softer than downhill or alpine skis. Standard binding is used.
Ski touring / Skiapinism
The terrain for ski touring is hard snow, pistes, bumps. Often also unconsolidated snow when riding off-piste.
The weight of the skis and bindings should also be taken into account, which could be as light as possible.
Free touring
Compared to ski touring, free touring is more in open terrain. It is characterized by moguls, unconsolidated snow, and powder. Skis are usually light in weight and easier to handle.
All-mountain
All-mountain (or all-round) is the widest category of skiing. All categories of terrain, hard snow, moguls, and ungroomed snow are represented in this category. The skis are medium stiff and stable.
Alpine skiing / Carving
Traditionally, the piste terrain features hard snow to ice and mild bumps/moguls. The skis are mostly stiffer and heavier.
You can also encounter other categories, for example
* length is a reference.
** weight is given for one ski, without binding.
The length of the skis is crucial
Do I have 150cm or 180cm? In general, the length of the skis depends on:
Skier’s height
The beginner has skis from -5 to -15 cm of the body height.
Advanced: 0 to -5 of the body height.
Expert: probably every expert can choose skis according to what he wants to ride. Viktor measures 177 cm and rides skis from 165 cm to 198 cm.
Skier’s abilities
For less capable skiers, the skis may be shorter and vice versa.
Terrain
We can simply say that shorter skis are meant for the slopes and short curves.
In freeride and open terrain, it is important to have stability and a longer effective edge. The buoyancy area of the skis increases with width and length.
When ski-touring and going up the hill, you need to be able to turn with the ski and think about the fact that we want to enjoy the ride on the way down and we should have to have enough energy for that.
The following table will make the selection of the length clearer.
The profile of the ski will tell you
The profile of the ski means how it is bent and how it lays on the snow.
Everything has a reason and here we will try to explain to you how it affects riding.
The two basic profiles are Camber and Rocker.
Camber is a basic and traditional bend. When you put the skis together, a gap is created under the binding.
Rocker is the opposite of Camber.
On most skis, these two profiles are combined.
The individual profiles, also for Forest Skis skis, are described in the graphic image. Camber and Rocker are described in more detail below.
The most common damage to the ski is a change in this profile, which occurs when the ski is trampled down or when the ski reaches the end of its life cycle. Therefore, it is necessary to check both skis in pair if they are still the same.
Camber
Convex curvature of the ski. Or simply put, when we place the ski on the ground, how far the binding is from the surface.
This height determines the aggressiveness and adhesion of the ski to the terrain. It transmits forces to the tip and tail of the ski.
With this feature, it reduces vibrations while riding.
It is suitable for hard and modified surfaces and holds the desired direction more easily. Therefore, we encounter this shape mainly on downhill/apline skis.
Rocker
The name is derived from either reverse camber or rocking.
This shape is developed for off-piste riding thanks to the fact that in deep snow it gives great and easy control over the ski. At the same time, it helps to ride on switch, better absorbs the effects of landing the jumps, or helps with rebounds.
Shapes and graceful curves
The shape of the skis indicates the riding characteristics of the skis. Their playfulness and dexterity. One of the main shape properties is the radius of the ski. Then come the length of the effective edges, the narrowing of the skis at the front and back, etc.
The radius is an imaginary circle that describes the ski if we put it on the edge. The rocker and the stiffness of the ski also have an effect on the arc. Again, we have several types:
Radius division
Short radius
A turn with a radius of 11 – 14 m. Skis with these radii are mostly considered to be slalom skis and tend to stick to themselves in sharp curves and riding straight is difficult on them.
Middle radius
A turn with a radius of 15 – 20 m. The most commonly used ski radiuses. The skis are calm, but at the same time, they do not need to be technically extra pressed into turns.
Large radius
A turn with a radius of 21 – 30 m. These are skis with a tendency to ride quickly and aggressively, or skis suitable for sliding turns, when you no longer ride on the edges.
A turn with a radius of 30 m +
Riding in a cut curve on these skis is practically intended only for really experienced skiers. These skis are designed primarily for sliding turns. According to my calculations and measurements, old school or classic skis had radii over 50m.
Several radii are sometimes also used to combine when designing skis. Double or triple radii are made. Subsequently, depending on the inclination of the skis or on the inclination of the skier forwards or backward, the turn that the ski describes changes.
Tails – small change, big impact
The shape of the tails has a major impact on riding characteristics. Forest Skis offers custom tail adjustment, according to the required riding characteristics of the ski. Thanks to this, we can adjust your skis exactly to what you need.
Swallowtail
Swallowtail is the most special and also the shortest Freeride tail. With this tail you can easily change the length of your turns. Thanks to this design tail is really light so you can turn the ski on the spot. The pressure of the snow congested under the ski comes out through it. This increase the speed of the ski. The Swallow tail is the best choice for ex-racers.
Twin-Tip
Semi-Twin
SemiTwin is playful option of our Frost skis. The mounting point is more forward so the ski is balanced and longer tail makes it stable. When you are looking for the joyful ride, this is a ski option for you.
Fin tail
Fin tail provides speed and stability. It is stable and supportive in landings. Cut-outs on the sides of the tail allow the snow to glide down from the tail without making the snow spray. The ride is faster and ski is balanced. This would be your choice if you like Freeride with some tricks as well.
Alpin
Alpin is the tail designed for Freeride touring. Ski with this type of tail is turning faster and thanks to the shorter tail, you have more classic feeling on the ski. Cut-out is good for hooking the skins and the tail will nicely support you in landings.
Telemark
Telemark tails are by the look radical but highly functional. They work on a basis of two slightly different lengths of the skis. You have a longer ski for the outside edge and a shorter ski for the inside edge in a turn. The pressure is distributed evenly along the ski. Skis are more manageable and stable. We highly recommend this type of tail to all telemark skiers.
BC Full Rocker
Full Rocker or SemiSwallow tail provides speed and stability. It is stable and supportive in landings. Cut-outs on the sides of the tail allow the snow to glide down from the tail without making the snow spray. The ride is faster and ski is balanced. This would be your choice if you like Freeride with some tricks as well.
Race or Race S
Race or race S is the shortest tail flat for aggressive rides and the fastest turns. The tip of the ski is a bit wider and sits lower on the snow. When you like race carving in all snow conditions this tail will be suited for you. It is the lightest and the shortest ski in our range. Softer women version with white sidewalls is available.
Different tails can be used through several categories, see diagram.
Effective edge or length is important
We mentioned the effective edge in the article. But what does that mean?
It is the part of the edge that touches the surface in harsh snow conditions.
It varies from the depth of the snow. Thanks to the rocker with a combination of radius, long skis can have shorter effective edges. As a result, they are easy to handle on hard surfaces but fast and stable in deep snow.
How much
Price is an important and decisive factor for many of us. It pays to invest in skis because of the feeling of skiing and also in terms of health.
Services can be included in the price. Bindings need to be mounted on new skis, costs can be in the tens of €. The advantage is other services such as consulting, custom skis, or service.
When choosing new skis, it pays to look at advantageous combinations, such as skis + bindings, possibly also skins. We can offer these combinations in Forest Skis.
Expensive = good quality may not apply
Is the quality of the skis reflected in the price? Yes and no, nowadays the price of skis at commercial brands reflects various factors.
The term “expensive skis” is subjective. For some, skis can be expensive at € 400, for some even at € 1,500.
You can compare the real price of skis based on the materials and development that the brand has completed. Marketing can also significantly increase it.
We as Forest Skis mainly sell directly. When selling through the traditional network of dealers and distributors, our prices would have to be significantly higher.
At the same time, it is necessary to keep in mind the ratio of the price of skis and skiing. How much money do we leave per year for trips, ski passes, and accommodation? The price of quality skis is negligible in this comparison.
Ideally, we buy skis for several years. We don’t often have to get used to new ones and at the same time, it’s ecological.
What does all this mean?
Everyone who wants to enjoy skiing to the fullest devotes some time to choosing skis.
In the article, we have prepared a “guide”, which parameters are important and which have what benefits for riding.
According to the answers to the questions “what kind of skier I am” and “how I want to ski” you will find out in which area you are looking for skis. Subsequently, it is about personal references and also testing.
Therefore, it is good to try the skis on available ski tests or try to rent them in selected rental shops, where the portfolio is also expanding.
Forest Skis provides a diverse portfolio for skiers who like speed but also want to experience something new and take their skiing to a new level. Therefore, we also prepared the division of our skis through categories, see the diagram.
At the same time, we prepare ski tests all over Slovakia (if situation gets better also the Alps) for this winter, where you can try our skis on your own foot;).
Model example
“Hello, I’m Petra. I measure 170cm, I am 30 years old. As a kid, I used to ski competitively, so I know the technique, I make a lot of curves and I like to ski at speed. I prefer skiing on the piste, but whenever possible, I ride-off it. I don’t do ski-touring yet. I’m looking for a medium to the short radius. ”
Analysis:
The result:
Introduction of Forest Skis models
We also present individual skis in short videos on our YouTube channels. You will find a ski intro here (with EN, FR, DE, ES and IT subtitles – they can be set in a video and the default depends on your youtube account):
Frost • Druid • Perun • Lotor • Vesna • Skadi
Text: Petra Jurečková, Viktor Devečka, Photo: Hamish Birt, Martin Fševed Žilka, Ondra Šimko
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